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« on: November 08, 2008, 03:07:01 PM »

Look, i know they are sweet. But how are you going to win a nerf war with it! It's almost impossible. If anyone had a good way to do it, then that's coolieo. But i think the hornet shouldn't be used in wars! I'm trying to use my suction darts and they don't go ten ft. flat. ( maybe I'm just being an idiot and doing something horribly wrong. but all that pumping for one shot of six darts? single shot sucks! What are hornet owners to do!
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »

hmmm...I never owned a hornet myself, so I have no experience with them. I have heard some nerfers mention they hate them(B00m13, for one).
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 04:13:38 PM »

Yeah! I got mine in the unity pack, (Titan,Scout) and  both of the other guns are sweet, a small accurate gun (like the nightfinder) and the titan has ownege possibilaties. Trust me on that one, I have been owned alot of times. But the only good thing about the hornet is that it is alot of fun. I must agree, I don't really like the hornet. I wonder if its worth it to buy the unity pack...
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 06:09:32 PM »

They're better to use in enclosed spaces, especially when using the shotgun button.

Using the single-fire trigger, it would be a good rushing weaspon (6 mid-range shots just by pulling the trigger is great for that), but it often tends to not "advance" to the next barrel (that is, it will fire the first barrel a few times before moving onto the second, and so on).

Maybe if I didn't plug the pump...
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 07:30:45 AM »

Maybe if I didn't plug the pump...

If you didnt plug it, then your single shot would be crap, since it usually is crap...
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 01:11:51 PM »

Mine gets 50-60 feet.

Which isn't good at all for long-range fire...but why would you want to use it like that? Instead, think of it as the equivalent of carrying 6 sidearms...all in one convenient package!
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 05:25:35 PM »

Only when it's pump is plugged... and a lot of pumping to... only the Magstrike or the Rapid Fire 20 deserve that :p I just don't think i will ever use it in a nerf war.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 07:56:52 PM »

Hornettes(minimized hornets) are cool, especially for dual wielding. They remind me of needlers from Halo for some reason.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 08:04:50 PM »

Hornettes(minimized hornets) are cool, especially for dual wielding. They remind me of needlers from Halo for some reason.

This guy gets what I'm talking about. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 09:17:34 PM »

Which part of my post are you referring to? The hornette part, the Halo part, or both?
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2008, 10:52:20 PM »

The actual nerfing part. Not the halo part, although I suppose that's true, too.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 04:29:54 PM »

I see were your coming from, but in my opinion it takes too much pumping, and I know about pumping, because my primary is a RF20. And i do like it, but it's one shot per one pump, unlike The hornet, witch sucks in my opinion, yours might be better, because you plugged the pump. I don't know.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 02:46:38 PM »

I think the bottom line on Hornets is that some Nerfer who is good with tubing and such needs to rework the Hornet to take out the inefficiencies and make it a viable weapon. If something doesn't work, tear it down and start again. Who's good with hoses and such? It's not really my specialty.

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 03:00:54 PM »

Yes! that would own!
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 03:45:21 PM »

I really don't see a problem with the pumping. ~20 pumps divided by 6 shots = 3.33 (repeating, of course) pumps per shot, and your average 2k or 3k takes 3-4 per shot. Big Blasts take ~10 per shot. If you don't want to pump, get a Maverick/Tek6/Mustang Six/whatever.

The point of the hornet is that you can carry it...completely ready to go...and fire off 6 shots just by pulling the trigger 6 times. Or, you can fire one shotgun blast of 6 shots. Or, a few singles and a shotgun. Whatever.

The real problem with the Hornet is that it is complicated and unreliable:
1. It's semi-hard to disassemble, and quite hard to reassemble until you get the hang of it. Then, it's not so bad.
2. The blast chambers easily spring "leaks." Actually, it's just that the valve doesn't close completely. But, the point is, they break easily and are hard/impossible to repair.*
3. There are some issues with repeatedly firing the same barrel.

So, is it a good primary? No, not outdoors because it has bad range. May be good indoors.
Is it a good sidearm? No. Sidearms should be infinitely dependable...thus why they are usually springers.
Is it a good secondary, compensating for a long-range yet low ROF primary? Yes.

In other words, it serves the exact same niche that Badger's Powerclip does. For example:
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- Badger and I having a primaries stand off in CTF? We exchanged about 4 rounds each. Doomsayer and SM1.5K. We just kept getting closer and closer. Then he hosed me down with the Powerclip. Clever trick Badgie, I won't fall for it again.

Of course, one could carry an automatic instead of a hornet, like Badger. I've also seen Twitch carry a Magstrike.

But, it's really all a matter of preference. Personally, I seem to suck at modding Magstrike clips. I'm going to try my hand at an RF20. But, if I can fix problem #3, I may very well go with the minimized hornet.

It's really all a matter of personal preference and (to a lesser degree) modding abilities, though.


*Some can be repaired simply by spraying silicone down the barrels and into the blast chambers, but that doesn't always work...yet it is the only possible solution
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